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Notice: Only variables should be assigned by reference in /home/d94lvjg28hnz/archive.vinemedia.org/html/public/lib/Talks.class.php on line 339 葡萄樹傳媒 :: 真情討論
Is it true that the end of the world will not come all in a sudden, because according to Revelation, there are so much more to happen before Christ come back. The bible says all Christians are to be raised...
2012 於 2009年11月29日
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2012
Thanks Marco. True indeed, what you said is important is truly important. But how can we not think? In fact, my concern was, when others talk about it, we don't want to reply with something that is untrue.. that's why I had the question :)
2009年12月3日
Marco
Thanks for your reply. Let us think on these two questions :
"1. Most people will think the end of the world means everyone dies..."
It seems Bible does not say the end of the world means every one dies.
2. As there are many signs appear before Jesus comes back, have we already seen all the signs mentioned ?
Yes and No. We have seen some signs, but not All. Second, the signs are not the core messages of Jesus Christ when He warned His apostles on the opposite of the Temple. You can see Jesus repeatedly said "Take Heed" (For example, in Mark 13:1-37, there are already 4 times)
So, what we need to do, is to see if our lifes could reflect the glory of God, be faithful to Him, and erect the Cross high.
All people will die sooner or later, and death is not the ultimate end. What we are concerning, is to think "What God will say when I face His throne ?" Would He say "You are my faithful servant", or He say, "I never know you, wicked man ?"
2009年12月2日
2012
Thank you Marco for your reply.
1. most people will think the end of the world means everyone dies...
2. as there are many signs appear before Jesus comes back, have we already seen all the signs mentioned?
2009年12月1日
Marco
This question contains many aspects that need to be clarified. I break down the question into smaller fragments :
1. Will the end of the world come in a sudden ? However, what do you mean by "The end of the world" ? Great disasters ? Coming of Christ ? Final Judgement ? New Jerusalem coming ? Total destruction ? Moreover, God said in Rev 21:5 "I mke all things new." (KJV). So, what is the meaning of "The End" ?
2. Jesus said no one knows the "Time" (Matt 24:3, Acts 1:7). However, did Jesus mean "The re-establishment of Israel ? The destruction of the Temple ? Or His coming ?" There are much debate on rhetorical, cultural and contextual approach. One thing is certain that, there are many signs appear before Jesus comes back. That is for sure, but NO ONE knows the TIME. So, if you say this is "SUDDEN", that is true. In fact, we do not need to think "When does Jesus come ?", but "How could I live according to His teachings, love Him, obey His commands, and reflect the glory of God ? (John 14:15)"
3. What do you mean "Christians are to be raised." If you say this with reference to 1 Thess 4:17. But when does it happen ? There are many theories on the rapture, such as pre-tribulation, in the middle of tribulation, or post-tribulation.
I can say, we should not be afraid of disasters, but to "take heed that no one leads you astray" (Mark 13:5). We do not need to think on the rapture, the disasters, or the horrific scenes of the end of days. What we need to do, is to be faithful to Christ no matter where we are, what circumstances we are under, and when we are living. Remember :
"Be faithful until death, and I (Jesus) will give you the crown of life" (Rev 2:10)